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Post by cookiejar on Mar 31, 2014 15:07:49 GMT -5
Steve and Cath's relationship was going in one direction at the beginning of the season and has made a 180. Makes you wonder what is really going on. Once she was made a member of the team, her role has diminished. I feel sorry for Michele Borth. Things were so positive at the beginning. Look back at the interview she and Alex gave at SOTB. Nothing indicated this would happen.
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Post by katlyn520 on Mar 31, 2014 19:28:35 GMT -5
So it seems like they might be leaving the door open for Cath to come back. Still don't understand why they made her a regular knowing they would get rid of her in two years. Doubt that was planned that way. They should have kept her in the Navy. Not too impressed with this decision. I think the why part about making her a regular, knowing they would get rid of her, could be explained by them wanting to be sure she was under contract to the show during the storyline so they didn't lose her. Michelle also tweeted yesterday: Michelle Borth @michelleborth · Mar 30 To put speculations aside. Twitter antics, whether good or bad, has NO relevance in creative desicion making at all. Lay issue to rest now. Michelle Borth @michelleborth · Mar 30 It's time for new beginnings and exploring the next chapter, I'm excited for what the future holds and look forward to spreading my wings! I agree that leaving her in the Navy and making her some sort of liaison with the team (whether covertly as she'd been doing or an official position) sounds like it would have been the best way to use her but maybe they wanted something that would be a "heartbreaking decision" for Steve and that was the way to go. Bring someone in that Steve and the fans really get invested in then have something tragic happen. At least PL says they won't do to her what The Good Wife did to Will. |
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Post by katlyn520 on Mar 31, 2014 19:35:32 GMT -5
Steve and Cath's relationship was going in one direction at the beginning of the season and has made a 180. Makes you wonder what is really going on. Once she was made a member of the team, her role has diminished. I feel sorry for Michele Borth. Things were so positive at the beginning. Look back at the interview she and Alex gave at SOTB. Nothing indicated this would happen. Sorry ... two posts in a row. Missed this before I posted my other reply. The reason they call it acting is because they can make you believe what they want you to believe. Even if they knew at the beginning of the year what was going to happen, if they're good enough actors they can make you believe everything is all roses. I don't think we'll ever really know the truth because I just don't have enough trust in any of the parties involved to believe that they'd tell us the truth. Was there really a two-year storyline? Did they all agree they'd stick to that plan? Did Michelle decide she'd had enough of the nasty fans and ask to be let out of her contract? Did CBS decide they'd had enough of Michelle's nasty responses to the nasty fans and terminate her contract? Does anyone really think we'll ever know the truth? |
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Post by mandyblue on Apr 1, 2014 5:21:46 GMT -5
I think Alex and Michelle did not know what was happening at the beginning of season 4. If Peter had this in mind he did not tell them. Or he changed his mind at Christmas and told Michelle that her character is not coming back next season. Do you remember in episodes 16 and 17 they filmed these in January Cath not looking happy and looks like she could cry that was when peter told them. Do you remember ep 4.14 which was filmed before Christmas Steve and Cath hugged each other.
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Post by katlyn520 on Apr 1, 2014 16:56:04 GMT -5
I think Alex and Michelle did not know what was happening at the beginning of season 4. If Peter had this in mind he did not tell them. Or he changed his mind at Christmas and told Michelle that her character is not coming back next season. Do you remember in episodes 16 and 17 they filmed these in January Cath not looking happy and looks like she could cry that was when peter told them. Do you remember ep 4.14 which was filmed before Christmas Steve and Cath hugged each other. Is there something here on the board about him telling them at Christmas? Or are you just assuming that that's what happened. Actors and actresses wouldn't be very good at their job if they couldn't do it without that sort of thing affecting them. I know I used this example somewhere else on here, but look at Josh Charles who played Will Gardner on The Good Wife. He knew last year that he was only going to be in 15 episodes this year and was going to be killed. There wasn't a hint of what was coming in his acting. It was a total shock to see it happen. I guess you're seeing something I'm not seeing when you talk about Cath not looking happy or Steve and Cath hugging; to me that's something they're doing that's in the script. The only thing that suggested to me that Cath might not be coming back are the hints about 4.21. Even less time on screen didn't mean that much to me because both Grace and Scott have had less time on screen this year and I haven't taken that to mean they're leaving. |
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Post by cookiejar on Apr 1, 2014 18:30:42 GMT -5
I would feel a whole lot better about this if I knew Michelle wanted out for whatever reason - another show, missing her family, whatever. But I don't think that was the case. I think the producer and writers didn't know what to do with her character and so made her disappear. I remember that with Taryn Manning and season one. She was suppose to be a regular of sorts and then they decided at the last minute to rewrite her role. Not too impressed with the writers and PL's plan for the storylines.
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Post by katlyn520 on Apr 1, 2014 19:32:11 GMT -5
I would feel a whole lot better about this if I knew Michelle wanted out for whatever reason - another show, missing her family, whatever. But I don't think that was the case. I think the producer and writers didn't know what to do with her character and so made her disappear. I remember that with Taryn Manning and season one. She was suppose to be a regular of sorts and then they decided at the last minute to rewrite her role. Not too impressed with the writers and PL's plan for the storylines. Yeah ... when they show Steve at his father's funeral, in the close-up you can see Taryn's hair by his shoulder. But they cut her out of the whole episode and later said she hadn't been at the funeral. I'm glad they at least allowed Danny to have Grace because none of the other characters had any family (except Chin and Kono being cousins) around to begin with. |
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Post by cookiejar on Apr 5, 2014 19:14:57 GMT -5
Rewatchiing Thanksgiving episode where Deb tells Cath she thinks Cath will be around for awhile. Guess she was wrong . There is no way PL was planning Cath's exit for two years. Stiil can't get over this.
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Post by katlyn520 on Apr 5, 2014 19:41:38 GMT -5
Rewatchiing Thanksgiving episode where Deb tells Cath she thinks Cath will be around for awhile. Guess she was wrong . There is no way PL was planning Cath's exit for two years. Stiil can't get over this. But maybe the whole point of putting that comment in there was to surprise us with her NOT being around much longer. Just a random thought... |
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Post by northernspirit on Apr 6, 2014 12:06:30 GMT -5
I've enjoyed both Cath the character and Michelle the actress since S1 but is has been awkward this season with her out of the Navy and officially on 5-0. I've always thought there could be great potential with her character moving forward if the writers had wanted to pursue it. Cath is a good girlfriend pairing with Steve as someone he has known for years and they share a similar background. While I don't personally feel like there has to be a girlfriend for every character (for me this show is more about the case and the team than their personal lives), I have enjoyed the small doses of personal life, as in reality personal life and professional life do overlap, and it can sometimes really augment the other parts of the show. I have a hard time imagining a new girlfriend for Steve, who would really understand his work, his past, and how all of that makes him the man that he is. Please no fluffy, shallow, unnecessary women!
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Post by Core 4 on Apr 11, 2014 8:50:49 GMT -5
From TV Guide Mega Buzz:
Is Catherine going to die on Hawaii Five-0?
TVGuide: The fact that Michelle Borth’s exit from the show coincides with Steve and Catherine’s dangerous mission in the Middle East does seem ominous, right? Fortunately, I have good news! “She doesn’t die”, executive producer Peter Lenkov tells us exclusively. “She goes out spectacularly. She goes out a hero, and the door’s open for her to come back. Hopefully we’ll see her again at some point.” Relieved?
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Post by Core 4 on Mar 8, 2015 9:11:15 GMT -5
 Generally, before the start of Season 5 I thought that if Michelle returns, it was not until 6 season. And it seems to me, if CBS ordered 6 season, Michelle might appear. |
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Post by mandyblue on Mar 8, 2015 9:37:22 GMT -5
OMG I really hope she comes back for Steve. I hope she might be in episode 5.25 and then season 6 if we get it
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Post by Core 4 on Mar 8, 2015 10:37:47 GMT -5
Generally, writers have a hard task. If CBS in March ordered 6 season, everything will be fine. But if CBS do not order a 6 season in March, and the decision will be in May, it will have to count that can be cancel. So they have to write an episode 5x25 as a series finale. But CBS still can order 6 season in May (a similar situation was with The Mentalist in the previous year), so even as they write an episode 5x25 as a series finale, it need not be the end of the show. Ideally, if ordered in March 6 season, and will not be a problem.  As for Michelle, if CBS ordered 6 season, I think she does not appear earlier than 6 season. But if CBS do not order a Season 6 in March, it's probably Michelle appear in the episode 5x25. |
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Post by katlyn520 on Mar 8, 2015 19:28:48 GMT -5
Generally, before the start of Season 5 I thought that if Michelle returns, it was not until 6 season. And it seems to me, if CBS ordered 6 season, Michelle might appear. If she's suggesting she might return, I don't think it would be a season 6 thing because that would mean that Michelle knows before anyone else that there is going to be a season 6. I doubt CBS would provide her with that information before they actually told PL and before it was announced. So if she's "wink wink" hinting a return it would have to be that she's already scheduled for a season 5 episode because, right now, those are the only ones we know for sure that we're getting. Or she's just playing with the fans. I can take her or leave her so if they bring her back and it makes for a good storyline, I'm all for it. If they bring her back just to tell Steve the same thing she told him over the phone (i.e., move on without me), then I think it would be a wasted opportunity. If they don't bring her back at all and she's just trying to stir up some interest with her "wink wink" suggestion, I don't have a problem with that either. I really did like the character when she was still in the Navy but I think they ruined the character by making her part of 5-0 and I didn't really like her as much then. |
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