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Post by darksea on Nov 1, 2011 16:13:11 GMT -5
10:00
CBS Hawaii Five-0 3.0/8 10.60
ABC Castle 2.7/7 12.58
NBC Rock Center with Brian Williams (Premiere) 1.0/3 4.14
Castle was adjusted down, Hawaii Five O was adjusted up. The masses will be celebrating because their demo went up.
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Post by sunnyirish08 on Nov 1, 2011 17:22:18 GMT -5
how many more episodes do we have to endure of her?
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Post by Dannos Dani on Nov 1, 2011 17:33:20 GMT -5
6 more eps. I think the effects of Boritis are beginning to show. I still haven't been able to rewatch, I think I would have enjoyed it, sans the parts I'll FF through, but I don't think even a strong plot and the 5-minute star of the week can save the show against the effects of Bori. I was surprised to see so many antiBori tweets, and that was only in the hour following the early watchers.
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Post by debraluv50 on Nov 1, 2011 19:17:11 GMT -5
Lenkov has to get rid of Lori soon, doesn't he? If he really wants Hawaii Five-O to continue, then he needs to bring in some better writers. What about investigating the murder of Makoto? Steve drives away from the scene of the crime. Joe was not interviewed nor was a statement taken at the crime scene. Are they going to talk about that? How do you leave a major murder and drive off to look for Wo-Fat? What are these writers thinking? The ratings will continue to drop until the writers and producers wake up and realize they are killing a brilliant show.
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Post by scarlarose on Nov 1, 2011 22:52:54 GMT -5
I was trying so hard to stay positive today and even last night while I was watching it, but now, I'm really worried. This is not looking good. Darksea, do you know what rating the show has to get when CBS will put it on the chopping block? If it loses numbers every week even if it's a little at a time, CBS won't save it, will they. I guess I'm talking about until Lori gets taken off and they have a chance to redeem themselves, if that's possible. I know that you're great at putting the facts out there, but right now can you please bring a pep talk to my very worried heart.
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Post by darksea on Nov 1, 2011 23:00:46 GMT -5
It has to have three weeks sustained of under 9 million, and drop under the 2.0 demographic for three weeks to generally be put under review. They will not cancel it right off the top without a review and trial basis to change.
I will be honest, I am almost tempted to put it out there that if they are willing to get rid of Lori, we will lead a campaign to get back over the 11 million mark.
But it's not looking bad enough, that's the problem.
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Post by beadmeup on Nov 1, 2011 23:38:37 GMT -5
Darksea, What about the reruns they usually show during the holidays? Do they count for viewership or is it just filling time and space?
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Post by Dannos Dani on Nov 1, 2011 23:42:52 GMT -5
Thanks for clearing up the numbers on twitter, Dianno. I couldn't remember the exact #s and thought we'd gone from 12 to 10...
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Post by darksea on Nov 2, 2011 1:16:03 GMT -5
Darksea, What about the reruns they usually show during the holidays? Do they count for viewership or is it just filling time and space? They do count for viewership. They don't necessarily count the same way the first run did, but they still count the audience and demographics to determine viability for syndication runs, and loyalty viewership, which are still important. |
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Post by davilarose on Nov 2, 2011 7:06:52 GMT -5
What happened to the writers from last year? Why were they replaced? 
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Post by azziria on Nov 2, 2011 8:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by Diana on Nov 2, 2011 8:19:00 GMT -5
Here is the article from the Star Advertiser: It's tricks for 'Five-0' as 'Castle' gets treats
November 1st, 2011
By Wayne Harada
“Hawaii Five-0’s” Halloween show, “Ka Iwi Kapu,” was more trick than treat Monday night (Oct. 31).
In the preliminary overnight Nielsen ratings, it was somewhat of a horror, too: ABC’s “Castle,” "Five-0's" competitive procedural in the 9 p.m. timeslot (10 p.m. on the Mainland), has become Monday’s best-watched scripted series, reducing “Five-0” to the second tier.
“Castle” logged 12.49 million viewers (2.9/7 in the 18 to 49 demos) compared to “Five-0’s” 10.28 million viewers (2.9/8 in the demo). “Castle” now reigns as the top-scripted series at 9 p.m. NBC's new news-format "Rock Center With Brian Williams," in its Halloween night inaugural broadcast, had a modest audience of 4.23 million (1.0/3) in demos — a disappointing debut for the Peacock network.
“Five-0” began with the eeriness of “The Blair Witch Project,” with hand-camera work in greenish black-and-white footage, of a young couple engaged in a documentary film on sacred land. That element jarred with the usual tempo of the show, suggesting that holiday tie-ins are a risky proposition.
The show turned out to be a primer for Hawaiian words, with a smattering of utterances — often repetitively — of common vocabulary for residents, but not so Mainland viewer-friendly. Heiau (place of worship, sacred burial ground), ka iwi (sacred bones), kapu (taboo), kahu (priest), and so on.
The homage to a contemporary horror classic (“Blair Witch”) did little to boost the honor of the Hawaii-filmed show, and simply added an artificial veil to the attempt to homogenize respect for local tradition and culture.
It was discomforting, for starters, to place Danno (Scott Caan) in a disrespectful position, to bypass the honor of the burial ground and cross over the stone wall to begin his investigation of the fate of the young filmmakers. Duh, even in real life, the CBS show knows to honor this hometown tradition, always beginning its filming season with a ceremonial blessing — so why this kind of needless behavior? Danno's action brought artificial curses — two large stones crash into his car, first into the front windshield, and later into his rear glass — sort of validating his misbehavior.
None of the “Five-0” teammates dared to test the curse, which was smart. And with the Halloween theme, Danno takes daughter trick-or-treating at the Pagoda Terrace. OK, it might have been meant to be a housing or condo facility, but heck, we know it’s a hotel. And not one you’d go to solicit Halloween treats. Would you make your kid knock on hotel doors for Halloween loot (which she didn’t get, anyway)? Not so savvy.
But it was nice to see locals like Marlene Sai (as an apparition) and Butch Helemano (as a priest) among the peripheral players. They should have tipped off the show that messing with Hawaiian beliefs is a no-no.
The show managed to create a quick montage of Halloween tricksters, decked in costumes, knocking on doors, but the real spook seems to be the Lori Weston character (played by Lauren German), who is caught in silly costume development issues amid a meandering script. She just doesn’t jell with Steve McGarrett (Alex O’Loughlin), Chin Ho Kelly (Daniel Dae Kim), Danno or Kono (Grace Park). Her role is larger than Kono’s, but mercifully, the disgraced rookie is back to investigation with her “Five-0” peers ... but still has little to do.
The subplot, with emerging romance between Danno and Dr. Gabrielle Asano (Autumn Reeser), also is a distraction worth avoiding. Did I hear him call her Gabby? In Hawaii, there’s only one Gabby — like in Pahinui.
Surely, DVR numbers will bump up the "Five-0" numbers a skosh, but it looks like the glide is turning to a slide.
So what’s your reaction to the episode? Bravos or boos?Source: showandtellhawaii.staradvertiserblogs.com/2011/11/01/it%E2%80%99s-tricks-for-%E2%80%98five-0%E2%80%99-as-%E2%80%98castle%E2%80%99-gets-treats/ |
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Post by darksea on Nov 2, 2011 10:02:31 GMT -5
What happened to the writers from last year? Why were they replaced? They weren't. That's the evil part. They are the same writers. |
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Post by jox3347 on Nov 2, 2011 11:14:33 GMT -5
What happened to the writers from last year? Why were they replaced? They weren't. That's the evil part. They are the same writers. Wow! that tidbit surprised me, had no idea! Is it PL's vision of the characters that are causing the bad writing then? |
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Post by darksea on Nov 2, 2011 11:42:48 GMT -5
Yep.
Episode 2 was written by Melissa Glenn & Jessica Rieder who wrote the S1 episode "Kai eʻe" (aka the tsunami episode)
Episode 3 was written by Elwood Reid who has worked as an editor for the show's storylines previously under Lenkov.
Episode 4 was written by David Wolkove who last year with his writing partner J.R. Orci wrote "Nalowale" and "Palekaiko", and did the teleplay for "Ua Hiki Mai Kapalena Pau"
Episode 5 was written by Stephanie Sengupta, this is a new writer, who commonly wrote for Law and Order: Criminal Intent
Episode 6 was written by Kyle Harimoto who writes with Carol Barbee, and wrote: "Malama Ka ʻAina", "Koʻolauloa", "Hana ʻaʻa Makehewa", "E Malama" and "Hoʻohuli Naʻau"
Episode 7 was written by Tara Butters & Michele Fazekas, who were writing assistants for Lenkov.
Episode 8 is written by Joe Halpin who wrote "Powa Maka Moana"
Episode 9 is written by Mike Schaub, who wrote "Loa Aloha"
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