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Post by margarine on Mar 26, 2012 16:17:56 GMT -5
Oh, hell, I'm just chiming in on this thread to get in the line. Never saw so many responses on one thread so fast.
I agree with most everything - Diana, that's a very good plan you've got there - she probably won't be on every episode unless Petey decides to make her a part of the team - I don't believe it will be the Steve and Cathy show because Petey's into blowing things up and car chases, plus the carguments - and most of all, Michelle Borth can ACT. Whatever Petey has in mind for her, she will at least be watchable.
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Post by Diana on Mar 26, 2012 16:19:30 GMT -5
I like everyone's take on this ------now if TPTB shove Catherine down our throats the way they shoved LW down our throats--there is going to be a problem. Hopefully they have all learned from their past mistakes and she will appear only occasionally like Max does. Over on FB some are saying that she will be replacing whomever on the team is killed off in the season finale. I don't think so---but time will tell. Maybe, Maybe not. I definitely think this ups the odds that Lori is the one to bite the bullet, now with Catherine on as regular, Lori becomes the most expendable character. I mean where do you take Lori from here, short of making her some psycho stalker that goes after Cath, there isn't a whole lot left you can do with her. At least with Joe, he is woven into the whole Champ Box/Shelbourne story so there is lots of places you could still take his character.
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Post by biochemgeek on Mar 26, 2012 16:47:54 GMT -5
I like everyone's take on this ------now if TPTB shove Catherine down our throats the way they shoved LW down our throats--there is going to be a problem. Hopefully they have all learned from their past mistakes and she will appear only occasionally like Max does. Over on FB some are saying that she will be replacing whomever on the team is killed off in the season finale. I don't think so---but time will tell. Maybe, Maybe not. I definitely think this ups the odds that Lori is the one to bite the bullet, now with Catherine on as regular, Lori becomes the most expendable character. I mean where do you take Lori from here, short of making her some psycho stalker that goes after Cath, there isn't a whole lot left you can do with her. At least with Joe, he is woven into the whole Champ Box/Shelbourne story so there is lots of places you could still take his character. I'd really like it to work out this way, but I just don't think it will. It sounds like the Shelburne story is going to come to a climax in the Season finale, and what bigger drama and angst for Steve than to kill off his friend and mentor, who is intimately tied to the whole story. Plus, TOQ is a regular on another show now, so not ver available next year. Since PL loves Lori/Lauren so much, I doubt he would kill her off. He'll fabricate some reason periodically for why they would need her "expertise" and bring her back (hopefully only very occasionally). I know there isn't much else you can do with her character, but they didn't do much of anything with her for the 16 eps she was a regular with lots of screentime! Why break the pattern? You are right though, that with Catherine as a regular it puts the nail in the coffin for any lingering idea that Lori could somehow still be a Steve love interest. That is good!
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Post by irishfan on Mar 26, 2012 17:13:28 GMT -5
You are right though, that with Catherine as a regular it puts the nail in the coffin for any lingering idea that Lori could somehow still be a Steve love interest. That is good! It is definitely good if they end the Lori as a love interest for Steve once and for all.....that's definitely true! Fiona
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Post by runner on Mar 26, 2012 17:26:46 GMT -5
"OMG she's Steve's love interest so lets make it all super angsty by having a bad guy go after her, etc." UGH please keep away from that. I don't think I'll have to go out on the proverbial limb very far in saying that we are destined to see one of those episodes. After all, Wo Fat would probably go after anyone he could use against Steve. But that should be a one-time episode and be done with the inevitable plot. Diana, you make an excellent point about the whole HF-0/NCIS crossover. If that is to be the case, then the crossover would be laying groundwork for S3. I'm still cautious, but definitely optimistic at the same time. I hope Catherine is kick-ass like Kono. Surely in NI she has some training in hand-to-hand combat and such, or at least the basics.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2012 18:29:33 GMT -5
I agree with most of the posts here. I like the Catherine character and Michelle Borth is a good actress. Glad TPTB added a character that we know and that meshes with the team. The devil will be in the details, ie how they use the character. Definitely don't want the show to turn into a cliched soap opera or wannabe soap like Castle. I loved the show so hard because it didn't have all the romantic entanglements. It was an action buddy show that was different from anything else on the air. I hope that continues. I didn't mind the occasional hook up with Steve/Cath or Danny/Gabby, but I sure don't want it every week. Feels like we just got the show back on track with the team focus and I don't want that to change. I hope they use her like Max or let Catherine be more than just Steve's girlfriend. As has been said, don't want the show to become the Steve/Cath hour.
What it comes down to is that while I like Catherine and don't mind the hire, I don't want the focus of the show to change. I want action centered around the team with Max and Catherine on the periphery. Add them when it makes sense. I don't want to lose the bromance for romance. I love the Steve/Danny banter, comedy, buddy scenes and don't want to lose their time for romance. Hopefully TPTB have learned from the disaster of this season and won't make the same mistakes. Like Musicfreak, I'll wait and see what happens and hope for the best. At least, it can't be the fiasco that Lori was as Michelle can act and Catherine is a strong, defined character.
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Post by joanna27 on Mar 26, 2012 19:22:51 GMT -5
I like Michelle Borth as Catherine. Happy to see her become a regular and play Steve's girlfriend. Congrats, Michelle.
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Post by katlyn520 on Mar 26, 2012 19:25:22 GMT -5
I like the addition of Michelle to the cast ... provided they treat her like Max has been treated ... someone who's there to help when needed but someone who doesn't have to be there all the time. I like Diana's NCIS angle; if she helped out with a little Naval Intelligence now and then, that would be the perfect use. I wonder if CBS made this move now to keep her from accepting a role in another show.
I don't mind if this means a little romance as long as we don't lose the bromance. I'm hopeful they've learned that it doesn't work to try to add someone to the team and will use her sparingly. Interesting that they chose a sometime love interest for Steve as the next regular rather than Chin's wife. Could that mean bad news for Malia?
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Post by fiveofan on Mar 26, 2012 19:40:05 GMT -5
she may be regular in S3 but I think she be like max, she would be on every episode but I think Steve will call on her help more. lot of calls asking for help that kind of thing.
that what I think.
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Post by davilarose on Mar 26, 2012 20:24:54 GMT -5
Like I said before, as long as they don't try to make it the Catherine Rollins Show like they tried to make it Lori Weston 5-0 last fall--we should be good.
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Post by nycgal on Mar 26, 2012 20:33:21 GMT -5
What a sweetie and all around good guy....you gotta love him See below his tweet to Michelle Borth... @daniledaekim Congrats @michelleborth. Looking forward to seeing more of you! #H50
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Post by beadmeup on Mar 26, 2012 21:37:52 GMT -5
While I agree with everyone that Michelle Borth has chemistry with the rest of the cast, I just wonder how they will write her in to be a 'regular' cast member. I certainly hope they don't go the 'soap route' of having Steve and Catherine living together and do a series of ongoing jokes about her way of doing things as opposed to Steve's regimented bachelor ways. That will get old fast and will be more like a sitcom than an action show. I can understand Peter's move to bring in a 'fan favorite' after the debacle that was Lori; but he needs to walk a fine line to keep the basics of the show intact. The last few episodes are showing the team in a more 'familiar / joking' way at the end of the show; please don't start showing Steve and Cath sharing a glass of wine on the beach at the end of each show. I think it's understood that Wo Fat will be Steve's ongoing nemesis till the end of the series (in the same way as the original), so I hope that Catherine is not being integrated into the show to eventually become a target for Wo Fat. Her addition to the cast is a definite improvement to the S2 addition. We've only seen her in small portions and always in a good light. Let's hope that Peter and the writers do a much better job with her in developing her 'personality' and that we aren't 'hating' her before the season is over!
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Post by Diana on Mar 26, 2012 22:26:23 GMT -5
"OMG she's Steve's love interest so lets make it all super angsty by having a bad guy go after her, etc." UGH please keep away from that. I don't think I'll have to go out on the proverbial limb very far in saying that we are destined to see one of those episodes. After all, Wo Fat would probably go after anyone he could use against Steve. But that should be a one-time episode and be done with the inevitable plot. Diana, you make an excellent point about the whole HF-0/NCIS crossover. If that is to be the case, then the crossover would be laying groundwork for S3. I'm still cautious, but definitely optimistic at the same time. I hope Catherine is kick-ass like Kono. Surely in NI she has some training in hand-to-hand combat and such, or at least the basics. Well, here is the thing with them announcing it now, if Michelle Borth hasn't had any training in Hand to Hand Combat or Weapons handling she now has 4 months to get herself settled in Hawaii and get some training before filming starts in July. So given the fact that Michelle is a good actor to begin with and if she gets some additional training to supplement the action part, I think she will do just fine in this role. Unlike SWSNBN that was hired like a week before they started filming her first scenes. Not that I am saying the additional time would have helped SWSNBN because you can't help bad acting and lack of chemistry.
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Post by okie27 on Mar 26, 2012 23:29:47 GMT -5
Well...i am the only one but i for one want to see more of her and none of *everyone knows who*...but i want her as a team member and NOT all about sex with the boss....i would love to see her gradually have more of a role and not just in the bedroom. I for one think that she has something to bring to the table. And certainly can view her as a female McG. I think she can be on the show and it does not have to be about romance all of the time. PLEASE writers develop her character more!!!!!!!! That is just my 2 cents.
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Post by sweetlikemeli on Mar 27, 2012 1:13:53 GMT -5
I agree with most of the posts here. I like the Catherine character and Michelle Borth is a good actress. Glad TPTB added a character that we know and that meshes with the team. The devil will be in the details, ie how they use the character. Definitely don't want the show to turn into a cliched soap opera or wannabe soap like Castle. I loved the show so hard because it didn't have all the romantic entanglements. It was an action buddy show that was different from anything else on the air. I hope that continues. I didn't mind the occasional hook up with Steve/Cath or Danny/Gabby, but I sure don't want it every week. Feels like we just got the show back on track with the team focus and I don't want that to change. I hope they use her like Max or let Catherine be more than just Steve's girlfriend. As has been said, don't want the show to become the Steve/Cath hour. What it comes down to is that while I like Catherine and don't mind the hire, I don't want the focus of the show to change. I want action centered around the team with Max and Catherine on the periphery. Add them when it makes sense. I don't want to lose the bromance for romance. I love the Steve/Danny banter, comedy, buddy scenes and don't want to lose their time for romance. Hopefully TPTB have learned from the disaster of this season and won't make the same mistakes. Like Musicfreak, I'll wait and see what happens and hope for the best. At least, it can't be the fiasco that Lori was as Michelle can act and Catherine is a strong, defined character. dz19 I agree with all that you have written...My main concern is that Danno doesn't get sidelined and have Catherine become more of a leader after Steve.....I honestly don't want her to become part of the team as a replacement for Bori.......because Steve will be protective and more worried about her....it's only natural for his feelings to surface every now and then.......JMHO.....
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